PT566 – Standards, Ethics, and Integration: Rebuilding Trust in the Ketamine Industry, with Juan Pablo Cappello
Psychedelics Today
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4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 19 November 2024
⏱️ 94 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Kyle interviews Juan Pablo Cappello: co-founder and former CEO of Nue Life Health, whose assets were subsequently acquired by Beckley Waves.
Cappello discusses the current challenges and controversies facing a ketamine industry that has moved much faster than anyone anticipated, and stresses the need to create industry-wide standards – especially for at-home ketamine – before the government imposes its own standards on us. Citing the Matthew Perry case and other bad behavior from providers, he talks about the risks of overpromising and underdelivering, the lack of integration in the majority of at-home ketamine frameworks, and how profit-driven, subscription model motives have overshadowed patient care and ethical practices.
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and more!
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Psychialics today. My name is Kyle Buller and I am the host for today's |
| 0:17.0 | episode. And today I get to sit down and chat with Juan Pablo Capello. This is a fun |
| 0:22.2 | episode that I got to actually do in person, went to go visit Juan Pablo, at his home in Colorado, |
| 0:28.2 | and got to sit down and chat. And so if you don't follow us on YouTube, definitely go check |
| 0:33.3 | out YouTube and you can see the video there. So Juan Pablo Capello is a co-founder and also the former |
| 0:39.9 | CEO of New Life Health, which was acquired by Beckley Waves. And Wall at New Life, |
| 0:45.7 | Juan Pablo oversaw a team that supported 10,000 patients and facilitated almost 100,000 legal |
| 0:52.1 | ketamine experiences. And in this episode, we get into the discussion of |
| 0:58.4 | at-home ketamine. And so these opinions are solely Juan Pablo's and are focused on the at-home |
| 1:03.9 | ketamine industry and not of any one provider in particular. And if you want to learn more about Juan Pablo, you can go back into |
| 1:12.8 | our podcast archive and check out some of the previous episodes that he was featured on. I think |
| 1:17.8 | the most recent one was back in March of 2024. So yeah, you can just go back into the archive and |
| 1:24.1 | type in his name wherever you listen to podcasts, and check out some of the other |
| 1:28.4 | episodes. So we're going to keep this intro pretty short because Juan Pablo has been on the |
| 1:32.6 | podcast before. But yeah, this is a really fun episode. We get into talking about the |
| 1:38.5 | catamate industry in general at home, the risks, potentials. And then we also chat about the pitfalls and the challenges |
| 1:46.1 | of the psychedelic field at the moment, but also what we're looking forward to and also trying |
| 1:51.9 | to envision what the future of a psychedelic field has in store for us. So I think that's it, |
| 1:57.8 | everybody. Again, if you haven't followed us on YouTube, |
| 2:01.4 | definitely go over there. Check out our YouTube page like Alex today. You can check out all of our |
| 2:05.8 | videos and this video will be uploaded. And again, this was recorded in person. So really |
| 2:11.4 | fun to be able to sit down with Juan Pablo in person and record this. So definitely go check that |
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