PT552 – The Globalization of Ayahuasca, Psychedelic Parenting, and the Power of Ceremony, with Glauber Assis, Ph.D.
Psychedelics Today
Psychedelics Today, LLC
4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 1 October 2024
⏱️ 103 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, David interviews Glauber Assis, Ph.D.: research associate at the Interdisciplinary Group for Psychoactive Studies, director of the Psychedelic Parenthood community, Vital instructor, and leader of Jornadas de Kura, a plant medicine center in Brazil.
He talks about growing up in Brazil in the shadows of colonialism, and how he felt his early experiences with ayahuasca and the Santo Daime church decolonized his mind, changing his relationship with himself and his family, and eventually leading him to start his own church: Céu da Divina Estrela. He believes that to truly know ourselves, we need to experience other cultures, and to truly see the commonalities between each other, we need to recognize just how different we all are. He feels that true growth is not found in the substance or experience, but in the relationships we have with others, and our ability to change.
He discusses:
-How ayahuasca becoming a global phenomenon is revitalizing traditions that may have otherwise been lost
-His first travels to the U.S. and why we need to stop romanticizing other cultures
-The power of live music in a ceremonial group setting
-The birth of his third child in a car, and what psychedelic parenthood really means
-The importance of understanding multiple different frameworks and being able to use them together
and more!
Bonus: This episode features the first live performance in PT podcast history – a song Assis wrote in the Santo Daime tradition.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to psychedelics today. My name is David Drapkin, the host of this episode, |
| 0:19.0 | Conversation with Dr. Glauber Lores de Assis. |
| 0:22.5 | He is a researcher of sacred plants and their traditions, especially of ayahuasca. |
| 0:26.9 | In the Amazon, he's got his PhD in Sociology. |
| 0:29.7 | He's also the co-editor of the book Women and Psychedelics, uncovering Invisible Voices. |
| 0:35.0 | He's the founder and president of Su da Divina Estrella, a legal and taxisem |
| 0:39.1 | the Ayahuasca church in Brazil, and the leader of Journadas de Kura, a plant medicine |
| 0:44.4 | center in Brazil as well. He's also the director of the psychedelic parenthood community. |
| 0:50.8 | And we chatted about many things to do with ayahuasca, particularly the globalization of it |
| 0:56.7 | and seeing this as a countercultural remedy or counterforce to, yeah, capitalism, materialism. |
| 1:04.8 | So seeing this ayahuasca globalization, particularly the aspects of healing and spirituality, kind of group and ceremonies, |
| 1:13.6 | being a healing in itself on a collective level, and the role of song he speaks about, and he |
| 1:19.6 | actually sings a song in this podcast, perhaps for the first time. So he grabs his guitar and |
| 1:24.6 | Glauva sings a song. So you can listen to it. It's beautiful. It's |
| 1:28.5 | about five minutes long. If you're welcome to skip through it if you haven't got time today. |
| 1:32.6 | But beautiful to hear that. And yeah, our kids actually got to say hello to each other on the |
| 1:37.2 | internet. So we paused and just brought our kids into the room and they got to say hello |
| 1:42.2 | in Portuguese and English. And yeah, |
| 1:45.2 | that's part of what he's working on with the psychedelic parent and community. What does it mean to |
| 1:50.0 | have more inclusivity and honesty and to bring it into our parenting? And it was amazing how we |
| 1:56.7 | spoke about the childbirth experiences he and his wife had with their three kids. |
| 2:02.6 | All right, so enjoy this episode. |
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