PT505 – Bicycle day Reflections, Quantum Mechanics, and the Value in Studying Philosophy to Understand Psychedelic Experiences, with Lenny Gibson, Ph.D.
Psychedelics Today
Psychedelics Today, LLC
4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 19 April 2024
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Joe and Kyle interview Lenny Gibson, Ph.D.: philosopher, Grof-certified Holotropic Breathwork® facilitator, 20-year professor of transpersonal psychology at Burlington College, and the reason Joe and Kyle met many years ago.
He talks about his early LSD experiences and how his interest in the philosophy of Plato and Alfred North Whitehead provided a framework and language for understanding a new mystical world where time and space were abstractions. He believes that while culture sees the benefits of psychedelics in economic terms, the biggest takeaway from non-ordinary states is learning that value is the essence of everything. And as this is being released on Bicycle Day, he discusses Albert Hofmann's discovery and whether or not it's fair to say that Hofmann intentionally had the experience he did on that fateful day.
He also discusses:
- The end of Cartesian thinking and the need for a new understanding of reality that incorporates the insights of quantum mechanics
- How philosophy has been taught as an intellectual endeavor, and how we need to embrace the practical and conceptual side of life
- John Dewey and quantitative thinking, William James and pragmatism, and was Aristotle a Platonist?
- The novelty of the creation of LSD, and how it gave us a path to a mystical experience that wasn't culturally bound
and more!
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everybody and welcome back to psychedelics today. This is Joe Moore coming at you from |
| 0:17.4 | San Francisco, California. I'm out here for the discovery sessions, which is super |
| 0:22.5 | fun so far. Anyway, this episode is our Bicycle Day episode. So congratulations on making it |
| 0:29.0 | to yet another bicycle day. Very excited about it. And today on the show we have Lenny Gibson. |
| 0:34.3 | Lenny is a longtime Holotropic breathwork facilitator. He's developed |
| 0:40.9 | DreamShadow, Transpersonal Breathwork, and Dream Shadow with his wife, Elizabeth Gibson, in Vermont. |
| 0:47.7 | It's actually how Kyle and I got connected was through Dream Shadow. And Lenny's been a big part of my life for a long time and so thankful for |
| 0:57.6 | Lenny, just generally really thankful. Lenny's been able to join this podcast. So thank you, Lenny. |
| 1:04.1 | We get into topics around Bicycle Day, Albert Hoffman history, and much more. We do some good |
| 1:10.1 | philosophy as well, as usual as Lenny, |
| 1:12.4 | which is lovely. So I hope you all love this one. And thank you all for being with us for another |
| 1:18.4 | year and can't wait for more. So, all right, I believe that's it. Thanks again to Lenny. Thank you |
| 1:25.0 | all for tuning in. Couldn't do it without you. |
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| 1:37.0 | And onward, enjoy the show. |
| 1:38.8 | We'll see you on the other side. |
| 1:43.8 | Hey, this is David Drabkin, Director of Education at Psychedelics today. |
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