PT487 – Saga Briggs – Interoception, Healing Through Connection, and Learning to Trust Our Bodies
Psychedelics Today
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4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 16 February 2024
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, David interviews Saga Briggs: freelance journalist and author of "How to Change Your Body: The Science of Interoception and Healing Through Connection to Yourself and Others."
A collection of interviews, peer-reviewed research, and personal story; the book dives deep into the mind-body connection, how to become more embodied, and our need for social connection – which factors into mental and physical health far more than most of us realize. The nod to Michael Pollan's book is also a challenge: Have we been focusing too much on our minds and now it's time to pay more attention to our bodies? How much of the benefit of psychedelic experiences is related to truly experiencing our bodies?
She discusses:
- How neuroscience is starting to look more at brain-body interactions, and the psychedelic space's growing interest in somatics
- The minimal and narrative selves: Do psychedelics make the minimal self traverse over the narrative self?
- Flexible switching and applying interoception to a social context
- Her concept of a 'possibility space' and new ways of perceiving
- The benefit of adding embodiment practices to psychedelic assisted therapy – especially during preparation and integration
and more!
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody. This is psychedelics today. Thank you so much for tuning in. My name's David |
| 0:14.1 | Drabkin and I'm your host of this episode with Saga Briggs. I haven't been on the podcast for a while, |
| 0:22.1 | so it really is nice to be back behind the mic. I was deep in vital admissions for our course. And now we've got started |
| 0:27.3 | with our third cohort. I'm free to interview people. And yeah, got some awesome guests lined up |
| 0:31.7 | for the next couple of months. This was a conversation Saga and I had about a month ago, |
| 0:37.5 | primarily around her book that just got published. |
| 0:41.6 | It's called How to Change Your Body, |
| 0:43.6 | The Science of Interreception and Healing Through Connection to Yourself and Others. |
| 0:48.2 | It's published by Synergetic Press and the Ford is by Julie Holland. |
| 0:52.2 | Such a beautiful book. |
| 0:54.3 | It's definitely coming from Saga's journalism, |
| 0:58.6 | training and professional experience, |
| 1:00.6 | but it's really got a lot of hardcore science, |
| 1:03.7 | neuroscience in there especially. |
| 1:05.8 | She goes to quite a lot of personal disclosures |
| 1:07.8 | about her experiences with psychedelics, |
| 1:12.1 | with her interception, |
| 1:17.9 | kind of somatic awareness embodiment, and so many interviews with, I think, about 15 experts around the world working in this field. And it's got a spiritual undercurrent. And it's |
| 1:23.7 | super practical, particularly the final section of the book. It's got loads of |
| 1:31.3 | useful integration exercises that help us with embodiment practices and just building it into |
| 1:38.1 | our kind of life as a ritual form. And the first thing that stood out to me looking at this book, |
| 1:43.2 | how to change your body, it's kind of taking the piss a little bit, these are my words, from Michael Pollan's |
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