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Hello, everybody. Welcome back to psychedelic today. Joe Moore here coming out from

Bracken, Colorado. Today on the show, we have Erica Rex. Before I give you an introduction, just

want everybody to know that we have a bunch of education

available at psychedelic education center.com linked up with our big community. We've got a lot of

courses there, particularly courses for clinicians and therapists looking to get more involved in the

space and a lot more, everything from psychedelics in the shadow,

introduction of Coral Jung and psychedelics, plenty of stuff up there, even, of course, on religious

liberty in the United States and how people could start approaching the federal government for

legal access. All right. So, Erica, thanks for being on. I'll give a quick intro and I'll kick it off here. So you are a, you're a lot of things. You've done a lot in your life. And I'm really impressed with your resume here. You are a breast cancer survivor that was in the Hopkins first ever non-end of life study for cancer-related depression and anxiety.

You did a master's in journalism at Columbia.

You've got a, you're a national magazine award-winning journalist, and you're an American now living in France.

We've had a few conversations so far.

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