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Psychedelics Today

PT 615 - Kristen Nash and Erica Siegel on Risk Reduction and Psychedelic Safety

Psychedelics Today

Psychedelics Today, LLC

Life Sciences, Science, Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.6598 Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

In this deeply important episode of Psychedelics Today, Joe Moore is joined by Kristen Nash, MPH, and returning guest Erica Siegel, LCSW, for a nuanced conversation about risk reduction, harm prevention, and ethical education in the psychedelic space.

Kristen shares the powerful and heartbreaking story of losing her 21-year-old son after a tragic psychedelic-related incident. Motivated by this loss and her background in public health, she founded the Coalition for Psychedelic Safety and Education and launched the Before You Trip campaign—an educational initiative piloting in Colorado aimed at helping Gen Z users assess their readiness and safety before engaging with psychedelics.

Erica contributes her extensive experience from Nest Harm Reduction and Shine Collective, emphasizing the need for peer-based support, non-abstinence frameworks, and trauma-informed approaches. She highlights common pitfalls such as untrained facilitators, predatory behavior, and the pervasive issue of gaslighting in psychedelic communities.

Together, they explore the gaps in current education efforts, the dangers of glorifying substances without context, and the moral injuries that can occur when people are harmed or dismissed by the very communities meant to support them. The conversation calls for broader public funding, lived-experience-informed leadership, and transparency around psychological and relational risks—not just physiological harm.

The episode also touches on poly-substance use, the limitations of existing drug harm scales, and the importance of setting, support, and intention. With a shared commitment to saving lives and empowering users, Kristen and Erica offer actionable insights and heartfelt reflections on making this space safer for everyone.

Listeners are encouraged to follow and support both Before You Trip and Shine Collective to help expand harm reduction education and survivor advocacy.

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0:00.0

Hello, everybody. Welcome back to Segadellics today. Today on the show, we have a return guest,

0:23.0

Erica Siegel, and Kristen Nash, and both of whom have amazing backgrounds. And we're going to talk a lot

0:32.2

today about harm reduction, risk reduction, benefit optimization, things along those lines,

0:38.9

understanding the risk profile and actually doing kind of an education campaign to

0:44.4

younger folks. How do we get people who might start using a little too early educated

0:52.5

so they can actually start making smarter decisions about their use.

0:57.0

Erica is a social worker, LCSW in California, Kristen Nash, and MPH, and has done a lot of work

1:04.0

in harm reduction.

1:05.5

We'll get into that later.

1:06.9

And we're talking about this new campaign that Kristen pushed out via the Coalition for Psychedelic

1:15.1

Safety and Education.

1:17.4

There's some really cool projects going on there with some pilots in Aspen and Denver, Colorado.

1:23.3

And I really like their content.

1:25.2

I think they're doing a great job helping people kind of plan and understand that planning

1:29.2

is an essential component of safety around psychedelics and just really excited that we were

1:36.7

able to do this one.

1:37.5

This one came out a little bit ago.

1:40.7

And it was on our YouTube live.

1:43.4

So if you're not tuned in and subscribe to us all over

1:46.6

socials, please do because we live stream a ton. And yeah, I'm just glad we finally got this on

1:53.3

the podcast. And thank you so much to Kristen and Erica for joining. And yeah, before we dig in, let's see. I think a few things to

2:05.1

mention here. We have sold out our July breathwork workshop. If you want to get on the wait list,

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