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The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Psychopharm Secrets: Starting Meds

The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast

Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Medicine, Alternative Health

4.8440 Ratings

🗓️ 16 June 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

We look at a hidden placebo effect that can confuse the picture when starting a medication.CME: Take the CME Post-Test for this Episode (https://www.thecarlatreport.com/blogs/2-the-carlat-psychiatry-podcast/post/5438-psychopharm-secrets-starting-meds)Published On: 06/16/2025Duration: 13 minutes, 22 secondsChris Aiken, MD and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this educational activity.

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0:00.0

The placebo effect is everywhere, but some things amplify it, and knowing how to spot them

0:05.3

can keep the treatment on the right path.

0:11.3

Welcome to the Carlatte Psychiatry Podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003.

0:16.9

I'm Chris Saken, the editor-in-chief of the Carlat Psychiatry Report.

0:20.5

And I'm Kelly Newsom, a psychiatric MP and a dedicated reader of every issue.

0:27.9

I've been in practice for 25 years, and for most of that time, I've made it a habit to rate symptoms at every visit.

0:36.1

That means years of ratings and thousands of patients.

0:39.8

And today I'm going to share two patterns I've seen that can help you separate the real

0:44.3

medication effects from the placebo effect a little better.

0:49.2

The placebo effect is not evenly distributed. Some disorders are more responsive to it than others.

0:56.2

Last year, Tom Beshore and colleagues from Germany ranked the placebo effect for each major

1:01.5

psychiatric disorder. At the top, a major depression and generalized anxiety, with an effect

1:07.3

size of 1.2 to 1.4. That's larger than the effect of adderol in ADHD.

1:14.1

By comparison, the effect size for antidepressants are small, around 0.3.

1:19.2

That placebo effect is even higher for children and for mild depression,

1:23.6

but it falls a bit lower in treatment-resistant depression.

1:27.1

Next come diagnoses in the middle, where the placebo effect is still large,

1:32.0

around 0.7 to 0.9.

1:35.0

Those are panic disorder, ADHD,

1:37.9

PTSD, social anxiety, and mania.

1:41.7

Yep, mania.

1:43.5

Most mania trials are done in the hospital, where a structured

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