Psychopharm Secrets: Coming Off Meds
The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast
Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast
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🗓️ 23 June 2025
⏱️ 14 minutes
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Summary
There’s a hidden placebo response to watch for when patients stop meds on their own.
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Published On: 06/23/2025
Duration: 13 minutes, 43 seconds
Chris Aiken, MD and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this educational activity.
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| 0:00.0 | Last week, we covered a hidden placebo effect that can amplify responses to any med that |
| 0:06.1 | is started on the first visit. |
| 0:08.3 | Today, we're going to flip that on its head. |
| 0:11.4 | I call it the placebo flip, and antipsychiatrists are going to hate me for this one. |
| 0:17.6 | It's when patients paradoxically get better after stopping a medication. |
| 0:26.6 | Welcome to the Carlatte Psychiatry Podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003. |
| 0:32.4 | I'm Chris Saken, the editor-in-chief of the Carlat Psychiatry Report. |
| 0:36.0 | And I'm Kelly Newsom, a psychiatric |
| 0:37.7 | MP and a dedicated reader of every issue. Imagine, you have a chronic illness like bipolar, |
| 0:46.9 | schizophrenia, or a current depression. You've been to the doctor for a few episodes, |
| 0:51.4 | but each time you managed to convince yourself that it was |
| 0:54.6 | just a temporary reaction to stress. After the fourth episode, though, you start to accept something a bit |
| 1:00.6 | more dreary. This is your life. You're not like the other people. You have a chronic mental illness, |
| 1:07.4 | and you're going to have to stay on a medication to remain well. It's a tough pill to swallow. |
| 1:12.8 | But to make things worse, that feeling of wellness never really comes. Yes, you are no longer in the |
| 1:18.2 | hospital or in bed all day, and you can hold a job, though not at your educational level, |
| 1:23.3 | but your mind is slowed. You get anxious for no reason, and you are so fatigued sometimes that it's an effort to move. |
| 1:29.9 | It's been like this for a few years, and your doctor says that you are in recovery, |
| 1:33.7 | but you start to wonder if your medication is causing some of these problems. |
| 1:37.5 | Your doctor is nice, but a bit too optimistic, and maybe isn't telling you the whole story. |
| 1:43.3 | So you stop your med. |
| 1:45.0 | The first day, a little withdrawal, no big deal, you can handle it. |
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