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The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

AI in Practice

The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast

Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Medicine, Alternative Health

4.8440 Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Artificial Intelligence is full of medical information. Here’s how to use it wisely. CME: Take the CME Post-Test for this Episode (https://www.thecarlatreport.com/blogs/2-the-carlat-psychiatry-podcast/post/5389-ai-in-practice)Published On: 06/09/2025Duration: 18 minutes, 48 secondsChris Aiken, MD and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this educational activity.

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0:00.0

Artificial intelligence is beating doctors at diagnosis.

0:03.6

Today, we'll show you how to add AI to your practice and how to use it wisely.

0:11.8

Welcome to the Carlet Psychiatry Podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003.

0:17.1

I'm Chris Hagan, the editor-in-chief of the Carlat Psychiatry Report.

0:21.0

And I'm Kelly Newsom, a psychiatric MP, and a dedicated reader of every issue.

0:28.3

I remember a time in the late 1990s when the debate was over expertise or evidence.

0:34.9

The question went something like this.

0:37.3

Would a patient with leukemia get better

0:39.3

care in the hands of a seasoned oncologist, or a novice who had an encyclopedic knowledge of

0:45.3

every randomized controlled oncology trial? Today, we have invented such a savant. Their name is

0:53.5

CHATGPT, and in a recent trial, they outperformed all the experts.

1:00.6

Ethan Goh and colleagues compared diagnostic accuracy among 50 physicians against ChatGBT.

1:07.3

Each were given six cases to diagnose. The physicians were correct 75% of the time, but ChatGBTGT outperform them with 92% accuracy.

1:17.4

The AI was version 4 of ChatGBT.

1:21.2

Okay, so the robot is beating the experts, but let's not give up hope.

1:26.2

What if we combine the two so the doctors use

1:29.0

CHAPT to enhance their own diagnostic skills? The study also looked at that, but surprisingly

1:36.2

the doctors did no better when they used CHATGPT as a helper.

1:41.8

Those results from 2024 were confirmed this year in a similar study of 20 physicians.

1:48.8

This one didn't use chat GBT.

1:50.9

They used AMIE, a specialized AI that is souped up for diagnostic acumen.

1:57.1

AMIE, or Amy, was nearly twice as accurate as physicians working on their own.

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