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Proxy with Yowei Shaw

Psychodrama: The 2nd Oldest Psychotherapy You've Never Heard Of, But Have Definitely Tried

Proxy with Yowei Shaw

Yowei Shaw

Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.8589 Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2024

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

An Emotions Beat episode about the surprisingly real feelings that can come from acting. 

Yowei has a problem: she’s making a show built around proxy conversations, but she still doesn’t totally know how to explain what’s happening inside them.

So she turns to psychodrama — an experiential therapy that uses role play, theater, and psychology to help people say the things they didn’t get to say, hear the things they needed to hear, and practice new ways of responding to old emotional loops.a

In this episode, Yowei talks with psychodrama expert Scott Giacomucci about how role play can create real catharsis, why acting can lead to healing, and what proxy conversations may have in common with a therapy that once rivaled Freud. Then Scott tries a little psychodrama on Yowei herself.

 

From the episode: 

— Scott Giacomucci — psychodrama therapist and author — more about his work: www.phoenixtraumacenter.com

Scott's textbook about psychodrama available for free

— On Youtube @PhoenixTraumaCenter


New to Proxy? Try Bisexual Wife Guy for a classic case, or The Mechanics and Magic of Ritual for another emotions beat episode about the emotional technologies we invent when to move through feelings. 


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Ever wondered why some trends are just suddenly everywhere?

0:05.1

Newsflash, nothing gets popular by accident.

0:09.0

I'm Brittany Luce, and on the It's Been a Minute podcast, I take the things you and I are both obsessing over

0:14.3

and show you the invisible forces behind the scenes that make us love it or hate it.

0:19.8

Be smarter about what you're consuming. Listen to the

0:22.8

It's Been a Minute podcast today. You're listening to PRAXIE, a show about about investigating niche emotional conundrums through

0:41.0

conversations with strangers who have shared experience. I'm Yo-A. Shaw. This is part three of my

0:46.7

quest to figure out what the hell is up with proxy conversations. Have I made a huge mistake

0:51.5

sinking my savings into a podcast I can't explain?

1:02.2

Now, you might ask, why am I subjecting you to four episodes of me digging at the same question while sweating in a tiny recording booth?

1:05.1

Surely I have more important things to cover.

1:12.6

Surely I've made my case for why you should go to patreon.com slash proxy podcast to become a Patreon member at $5 a month before August 22nd so we can unlock funding to make season one. And if I haven't, surely you'd like me to

1:18.6

stop talking about this Patreon campaign. Me too. But here's the thing. I am learning things.

1:25.6

And I hope you are too. In some ways, this extremely niche silly quest is about something we all struggle with.

1:33.4

How to feel better when we're feeling stuck.

1:37.5

So I didn't grow up with therapy.

1:40.6

I can't remember the T word ever coming out of my Taiwanese immigrant parents' mouths,

1:45.9

but by my mid-20s, I knew I was supposed to be in therapy.

1:50.3

It was just something you do as a well-adjusted adult, if you can afford it.

1:54.8

And so over the next 10 years, I went through six different therapists.

1:58.9

They were all fine, and never had an aha moment, but I'm sure

2:02.6

it helped. Or did it? I don't know. What I do know is that even though I shelled out thousands

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