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Overthink

Psychedelics

Overthink

Ellie Anderson, Ph.D. and David Peña-Guzmán, Ph.D.

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Education

4.7549 Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2023

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

No, you’re not hallucinating! In episode 89 of Overthink, Ellie and David investigate the loopy world of psychedelics. Did you know that after doing psychedelics Jean-Paul Sartre went through a  “lobster phase” during which he hallucinated lobsters everywhere he went? Once paraded as mind-opening gateways to the nature of reality, psychedelics are back in the conversation today as tools of therapy and neuroscience. Your hosts take a crack at the philosophy of these puzzling substances, from their implications for phenomenology and the nature of consciousness, to the ethics of their medicinal use, in light of their risks and long-lasting effects. If a trip can transform our mind and senses, it might be that our everyday perception really is far weirder than we think.

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Works Discussed

Robin Carhart-Harris, et al. “The Entropic Brain: a theory of conscious states informed by neuroimaging research with psychedelic drugs”
Alison Gopnik, The Philosophical Baby
Aldous Huxley, The Doors of Perception
Mike Jay, “Sartre’s Bad Trip”
Chris Letheby and Jaipreet Mattu, "Philosophy and Classic Psychedelics: A review of some emerging themes"
Maurice Merleau-Ponty, Phenomenology of Perception
Michael Pollan, How to Change Your Mind
Anil Seth, Being You: A New Science of Consciousness
Dana G. Smith, “What Does Good Psychedelic Therapy Look Like?”
Simeon Wade, Foucault in California

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, and welcome to Overthink.

0:16.4

The podcast where two friends who are also professors share philosophical perspectives on all manner of things.

0:22.7

I'm David Pena Guzman. And I'm Ellie Anderson. And, you know, David, we just started this episode

0:27.6

like sounding all professional and stuff because we are in fact recording in a real live podcast

0:32.4

studio, not in our closets on Zoom. But wow, it has been a morning.

0:40.0

A morning from hell.

0:41.9

So we have been struggling with this fancy equipment in a recording studio in the middle of the Pagall neighborhood in Paris.

0:49.4

We just burnt about two hours battling with technology that we don't understand, but

0:55.7

Ellie kind of does much better than me.

0:58.3

So thanks Ellie for finally getting it to work.

1:01.5

And thanks to our audio editor, Aaron, for like hopping on a last minute Zoom call to help us.

1:05.9

Because in short, this is an anti-advertisement for Studiomatique in Paris.

1:11.4

We're going to burn them.

1:12.4

They just like had somebody open the door for us for the studio,

1:16.9

taught us nothing about how to use this technology.

1:19.8

Again, we're philosophy professors.

1:21.9

We are not professional audio people.

1:25.2

So yeah, we thought we were going to start recording like two hours ago,

1:27.4

and we didn't. And we were hoping that all of the audio now is going to be fine. Okay,

1:34.3

we'll get into it, though. David, take a breather. I need a whole yoga class right now.

1:40.7

I know, David was so stressed out. Which is so rare for me. Oh, my God. Well, you know, I'm actually a little nervous about this episode topic, too, in addition to the stressful situation, because it's such a hot topic right now and we're learning more about it every day. And so I'm super excited, but I've also been a little nervous about it because there's

2:00.8

tons of scientific literature on the topic, which we're not going to be able to do justice to.

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