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Psychedelics: Revolutionary Healing Tool or a Spiritual Bypass? - Dr. Will Van Derveer - 534

Relationship School Podcast

Jayson Gaddis

Relationships, Relationshippodcast, Sex, Relationshipadvice, Society & Culture, Jaysongaddispodcast, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.6981 Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Will Van Derveer joins Jayson to discuss the uses and misuses of psychedelic drugs. He shares his background, his work in integrative psychiatry, and the limitations of conventional mental health treatments. Dr. Van Derveer also explores the therapeutic potential of ketamine, MDMA, LSD, psilocybin, and more.

Are there people who shouldn’t use psychedelics? If you’re going to use them, what are some best practices? Don’t miss this enlightening episode.

Will Van Derveer, MD is a leader in the adoption of integrative psychiatry practices globally. After discovering that his conventional psychiatric training was inadequate to answer many of the challenges facing his patients, Dr. Van Derveer began to learn how to resolve the root causes of common psychiatric problems such as depression, anxiety, and insomnia.

Dr. Van Derveer has published research on MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for PTSD and written book chapters in the fields of ketamine-assisted psychotherapy and other clinical applications of psychedelic compounds. His passion is finding effective relief from psychological suffering using a vast array of the most natural approaches possible. In addition to traditional medical training, He is a meditation instructor and has trained in shamanism, EMDR, somatic experiencing, internal family systems, cognitive behavioral therapy, and hypnosis.

Timestamps:

  • 1:09 - Will's journey
  • 3:24 - Limitations of conventional mental health treatments
  • 14:56 - Will's journey with psychedelics
  • 22:16 - Ketamine
  • 27:08 - MDMA
  • 31:09 - Other psychedelics
  • 42:20 - Jayson's experiance with psychedelics
  • 46:02 - Problems in the psychedelics scene
  • 57:02 - Psychedelics as part of a long-term treatment plan
  • 1:00:00 - Who does NOT benefit from psychedelics?
  • 1:04:00 - Tips for using psychedelics
  • 1:07:00 - Where to find Will


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0:00.0

Okay, welcome back to the relationship coaching school podcast.

0:07.0

I've got my friend Will Vandervere here, who's a total badass when it comes to healing and transformation and helping people evolve.

0:18.2

Welcome, Will.

0:19.3

Thanks, Chase.

0:20.3

Great to be here. Yeah, dude. We've known each other 20-something

0:24.3

years and we met in a meditation community and we could tell stories about that. But I just really

0:32.4

brought you on because you have so much experience in the trenches with people, you know, as a psychiatrist,

0:39.5

as a facilitator as just a person who really understands human beings and human behavior.

0:48.5

And I just, I'm so grateful to get time with you and to have our listeners learn from you.

0:57.0

Thanks for having me.

0:58.0

It's a huge priority for me to have a broad impact on people.

1:03.0

So here's a great opportunity for that and it's always great to spend time with you personally.

1:09.0

Cool.

1:10.0

Will you give us a sense of just some of your training and background

1:13.1

and where you come from and then we'll dive in?

1:15.8

Yeah.

1:16.2

So I ended up back at home in Nashville for medical school.

1:24.2

I wasn't sure what I wanted to do,

1:26.7

but I ended up in psychiatry after filling around with,

1:31.3

you know, cadavers and getting really excited about anatomy and surgery and all kinds of things.

1:38.3

But what really fascinated me was people's stories and where they came from and where they were headed in their

1:44.9

lives. So ended up choosing that, coming out here to Colorado for my training in psychiatry.

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