Hey, welcome back to the Relationship Coaching School podcast. How are you? It's time to dive into

how do we help people more effectively. This is a shorter episode on the victim triangle that a lot

of you are familiar with. It's important that we talk about this if we're

clients or we're therapists or coaches and we want to help people in a genuine way.

This podcast, of course, is about personal growth. It's about looking in the mirror and taking

responsibility for our lives. It's about becoming the best practitioner possible.

How do we really get the best results with people?

What is it that makes people change?

These are some of the questions I ask myself and my guests,

and I am fascinated with human transformation,

and that's really what we're talking about here.

Okay, let's talk about the victim triangle.

In some circles, it's the drama triangle.

This first came about, my understanding is in systems theory.

Marie Bowen, I think, made it popular. And I think it's such an awesome frame to work from

when working with clients. Because most of the time, our clients come in in some kind of victim

mentality about how they've been hurt, betrayed, or something like that, right? And we,

if you draw a triangle, right, down at the bottom, and we put a triangle upside down, the bottom,

that point of that triangle looking downward is the victim v all right just it looks like a v the

letter v in the upper right is the rescuer and the upper left is the perpetrator okay so you might

draw that in your mind victim rescuer perpetrator often called the villain or persecutor and that triangle is what we're going to be unpacking here,

each role inside that. Now, in our life, we play all three roles. I guarantee you, you have been

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