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🗓️ 17 January 2025
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Back from the Abyss. I'm Dr. Craig Hecock. This is a place for stories of hope and healing, recovery, and redemption. |
0:23.0 | Today I'm doing a solo episode. |
0:25.8 | This is psychedelics, psych meds, and the question of tapering. |
0:31.9 | Here's an interesting fact. |
0:34.1 | It is very possible that you could do a more than adequate taper and wash out of a serotonin |
0:39.7 | med, say, acetalopram. |
0:42.4 | You could do it slowly enough that you don't have terrible withdrawal effects, then take |
0:47.2 | a therapeutic dose of psilocybin mushrooms, which importantly have a very similar structure |
0:52.6 | to serotonin. |
0:54.3 | Let's say even a superheroic dose, say six grams or more, and then nothing happens. |
1:00.4 | I've heard many versions of this story over the last few years. |
1:03.5 | And to add some mystery and intrigue here, the offending serotonin meds are most often |
1:09.7 | serotonin promoters, also known as agonis, not the serotonin |
1:14.3 | blockers, also known as antagonists. |
1:17.5 | How can this be? |
1:19.5 | One of the more interesting and difficult challenges of integrating psychedelics into |
1:23.4 | psychiatry is how to deal with the fact that so many of the folks who will seek out care |
1:28.4 | for their treatment-resistant depression or OCD or body dysmorphia or PTSD or attachment trauma, |
1:37.0 | that they're on psychiatric meds, many of which can have very significant and even dangerous |
1:42.4 | interactions with some psychedelics. |
1:45.4 | For the potentially millions of people who might seek out psychedelics for psychiatric treatment |
1:50.3 | or psychospiritual exploration or just plain recreation, the question of whether to tape off some |
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