Proud Boys Convictions, Debt Limit, The End of Chevron, Zooey Zephyr

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.4 • 783 Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2023

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Mike, Jay, and Ryan open this episode with a discussion of the conviction of four members of the Proud Boys for seditious conspiracy for their actions related to the January 6th Capitol breach. They’re all against sedition (not surprising) but Mike points out some elements of the case that Jay thinks could provide some grounds for appeal. Next they turn to the debt limit. Ryan starts things off with an historical overview of the debt ceiling, after which they discuss whether the 14th amendment’s ‘public debt’ clause means that the administration must honor its debts, regardless of any limit imposed by congress. They also get into the politics of debt ceiling negotiations and the potential ramifications of even a short-term default. Following that Ken joins the conversation as they look at a case in which the Supreme Court is almost certain to significantly constrain or eliminate outright Chevron deference, in which courts defer to administrative agencies’ reasonable interpretations of ambiguous legislation. The show closes with a look at the case of Zooey Zephyr, the transgender Montana legislator who was barred from the floor by the Republican majority. The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys. Interested in starting your own podcast? Check out RedCircle, home of The Politics Guys. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Aeneas, agnostics, long-haired, weirdos, short-haired winters, vandal,
0:05.6	Gula.
0:05.9	I'm the government, hug the government, love the government, hug the government, love the government.
0:12.0	Welcome to the politics, guys, a place for bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy.
0:17.7	I'm Michael Baranowski, Professor of Political Science at Northern Kentucky
0:20.9	University. I'm joined today by not one but two co-hosts, my conservative counterpart,
0:27.2	Cleveland area attorney, and defender of freedom, Jay Carson, as well as political
0:32.3	scientist Ryan Teetan. Hi, guys. Hey, Mike. How's it going, Mike? So we're also, we also may be joined by
0:40.2	Kenny's trying to break out of a meeting. We'll see if that happens. But if so, he'll just pop in here
0:45.2	at some random interval. But we have a lot we want to talk about today. We're going to talk about
0:50.5	the proud boy sedition convictions, the debt limit, possibly the end of Chevron.
0:56.3	Chevron is something near and dear to at least the hearts of Jay and myself, certainly.
1:00.9	The Zoe Zephyr removal in the Montana legislature, the execution, the lack of a stay of execution in the Glossop case.
1:10.1	There's just a ton of stuff. I can't wait to
1:12.7	get started and we will get started in just one second. All right now, before we get started,
1:20.0	though, there is something I wanted to mention that we are adding what I think is going to be
1:25.2	a really fun addition to the show. Every month,
1:28.8	we're going to do a special segment of the midweek show with the topic being chosen by our
1:34.2	supporters. And then we're going to invite those supporters to listen in as we record the segment
1:40.4	and send us comments, which will be able to respond to in real time as we're actually
1:45.2	doing the recording.
1:46.6	And so basically, if you've ever listened to the show and find yourself, you know, saying,
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