Not only do we not get the broad, affordable EV market that we thought we would,

we got a fascist takeover of our country, right, funded by our own tax dollars. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us, made in partnership with The Nation magazine.

I'm your host, Paris Marks, and this week my guest is Ed Niedermeyer.

Ed is the author of Ludacris, the Unfarnished Story of Tesla Motors, and a co-host of the Atonicaast.

Ed, of course,

has been on the show many times in the past to discuss Tesla and the latest developments with me so that, you know, you can have a good understanding of what is happening with this company.

And now, as Elon Musk is rapidly remaking the American government with the approval of Donald

Trump and his administration,

I figured it was time to have Ed back on the show not just to discuss what is happening in this

moment and what is happening with Tesla, you know, the difficulties that we have been seeing

with this company for quite a while now, but also why those difficulties offer us an opportunity

to challenge the power and the wealth that Elon Musk has been

able to deploy. If we can start to chip away at that power, that might affect his ability to

keep taking these actions that are so clearly against the interests of so many people, not just

in the United States, but around the world. So this is a pretty wide-ranging discussion with Ed.

We start by talking about what has been going on recently.

And then we get into discussing Tesla specifically and the challenges that it has been

facing with its lack of new models.

It's focused on hype over the fundamentals of the car business.

And then we get into how much Elon Musk is actually dependent on the success and in particular the success of the share price of Tesla. And why

challenging the fundamentals of the company, why chipping away at that narrative of Tesla's success

and inevitability actually gives us an opportunity to really start

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