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🗓️ 20 February 2025
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0:00.0 | If you take down Social Security and you can't get it back up, if you take down the Treasury Department, people can literally die. |
0:08.3 | Like, if you do not get it up in time, they cannot make their rent payment, they cannot pay for electricity, they cannot do these things. |
0:13.5 | Like, this is not something that we're like, oh, sorry, sites down for a couple hours. |
0:16.8 | We'll have it back up. |
0:34.1 | Yeah. we'll have it back up. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us, made in partnership with The Nation |
0:37.0 | Magazine. |
0:37.6 | I'm your host, Paris Marks, and this week my guest is McKenna Kelly. |
0:40.6 | McKenna is a senior writer at Wired and writes the Politics Lab newsletter that covers everything that we have been seeing on a weekly basis. |
0:49.0 | As I said on last week's episode, I was on vacation for a little while. |
0:52.1 | That's why we weren't digging into the day-to-day |
0:54.6 | of what has been going on with the remaking of the U.S. government by Silicon Valley. |
1:00.0 | But today, we changed that by talking to McKenna. As you might be aware, Wired has been doing |
1:05.4 | fantastic reporting on everything that Doge, Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency, has been doing within the U.S. |
1:13.7 | government and the wider effects of that on the federal workforce, but also on the government |
1:19.2 | as a whole, and, you know, everyone who relies on it. |
1:22.0 | So I figured it was a great opportunity to have McKenna on the show so we could dig into |
1:25.7 | all this. |
1:26.2 | And we really go through so many |
1:28.3 | different aspects of it, just the intensity of the changes that are happening within the U.S. |
1:33.0 | government, how this Doge agency actually works and how that differs from maybe this initial |
1:39.4 | idea that was behind it. Who is actually running this thing and how much power Elon Musk actually has |
1:45.9 | and how it can actually be a bit difficult to figure out what exactly they are doing because they |
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