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The FOX True Crime Podcast

Protecting Yourself From Anonymous Crime Online

The FOX True Crime Podcast

Fox News

True Crime

4.7 • 826 Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

The Netflix documentary, Unknown Number: The High School Catfish, has exposed the ease with which people can anonymously target, harass, and threaten individuals online. October is Cybersecurity Awareness Month, an important time to understand the ways in which seemingly common technology can be weaponized against us. Head of Faculty at SANS Institute, Heather Barnhart, provides her expertise on digital forensics and later details her own experience with digital harassment as well. Follow Emily on Instagram: @realemilycompagno If you have a story or topic we should feature on the FOX True Crime Podcast, send us an email at: truecrimepodcast@fox.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Emily Campanio, and this is the Fox True Crime podcast.

0:16.3

The new Netflix documentary, Unknown Number, the high school catfish,

0:21.1

has exposed the ease with which people can anonymously target, harass, and threaten individuals online.

0:28.1

Unfortunately, with the rise of artificial intelligence and new technologies,

0:32.9

the means for people to create threats and so chaos like this have only become more sophisticated.

0:39.3

October is Cybersecurity Awareness Month, an important time to understand the ways in which

0:44.3

these seemingly common tools can be weaponized against us.

0:48.3

Heather Barnhart is a digital forensics expert and the head of faculty at Sands Institute.

0:53.3

She joins me now with more insight into these

0:55.9

types of cases and to discuss her own experience with digital harassment as well. Heather,

1:02.7

let's talk about unknown number. Now for anyone who hasn't seen the documentary, this is your

1:07.4

spoiler alert, guys, but we watch as this poor 13-year-old girl

1:11.9

is just relentlessly cyber-bullied for almost two years

1:15.9

and then only for her own mother

1:18.2

to be revealed as her tormentor.

1:21.6

Yeah, so I actually, I watched that.

1:24.8

And just going through it one,

1:31.0

how the response time and the response efforts of going through the school and all the things that occurred just kind of blew my mind

1:34.9

that law enforcement should have been involved the second anything relating to suicide or death

1:40.8

came in. It shouldn't have fallen on the school and the principal in the community

1:44.2

to try to figure this out. So that was the first thing. And if you notice when law enforcement

1:48.2

responded, they got access back to the potential locations within days when that one investigator

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