Hey folks, Randy Noberg here.

Welcome to Loot Fold's Hanthac Radio.

Hey folks, Randy Noberg here with another episode of Loot Fold's Hanthac Radio.

Hope you're doing well.

Today I am continuing what I think is an important part of everything related to the things we love

of wild places and wild things.

And that is citizens as their own advocates for the causes of conservation.

And today with me, Andrew Pazowitz and Jeff Herbert are two guys who've been doing remarkable things with a bigger group.

And I always want to make sure hey, it's not just us.

There's a lot of people working on this, but they get to be the spokesman for this.

And they're putting together an effort in Montana trying to state what the values of Montana's are related to, you know, hunting, fishing, public access, conservation, you know.

All those things that are dear and necessary to what we love to do.

And so I thought, I want to have them on the podcast because we, regardless of what state you live in, I think the lesson here of what we're going to talk about and how they're deciding that we have to make the statement.

We can't pay for our advocacy.

We have to stand up for the things that are important to us.

And they're doing just that. And they're doing it with a tone of hope and optimism and affirmeriveness that I think is very, very helpful in today's world where everything is despair and negativity.

And so I asked them if they'd come and be on the podcast so we could talk about this. And I think it falls in line. We'll get into the discussions about the public trust doctrine, about public resources, about how every state has conservation and leaders and conservation examples, mentors who we can look to.

How every state is facing these kind of issues and the groups who are trying to, if you want to say unravel it, are hoping that we don't show up.

Hoping that we're too busy because we are all too busy, but you know, that's the old saying is all it takes for bad things to happen is for good people to not show up. So that's who's here today. These are the kind of projects that really get me excited about the United States and our country as a place where citizens become their own advocates.

And anytime groups like what Andrew and Jeff are doing whenever I can, I want to help them become more effective at getting their word out.

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