Hey, pull up a chair.

It's axon tap with David Axelroth, Robert Gibbs, and Mike Murphy.

He hasn't reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel.

Mr. Engel grabbed his arm, said Sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel.

We're going back to the West Wing.

We're not going to the Capitol.

Mr. Trump then used his free hand to lunge towards Bobby Engel.

And Mr. Ronaldo had recounted the stories to me.

He had motion towards his clavicles.

It was unpatriotic.

It was un-American.

We were watching the Capitol building get defaced over a lie.

And it was something that was really hard in that moment to digest, knowing what I've

been hearing down the hall and the conversations that were happening, seeing that tweet come

up and knowing what was happening on the hill.

Robert Gibbs, that was a bite from Cassidy Hutchinson, the former top aide to Mark Meadows,

Donald Trump's chief of staff at today's surprise hearings of the January 6th commission.

We will not be discussing that clip because that clip hasn't actually happened yet.

But through the wonders, the sorcery of our engineer, Jeff Fox, we have inserted that

after to give the illusion of being in the moment.

I thought you were going to announce that we'd actually invented time travel.

And I thought this was going to be a really cool intro to the podcast.

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