Hey, pull up a chair. It's ax on tap with David Axelrot, Robert Gibbs, and Mike Murphy.

The S Hutchinson did Rudy Giuliani ever suggest that he was interested in receiving a presidential

pardon related to January 6th. He did. Ms. Hutchinson, did White House Chief of Staff

Mark Meadows ever indicate that he was interested in receiving a presidential pardon related to

January 6th? Ms. Meadows did seek that pardon, yes, ma'am. Hello, America. The hacks of

assembled, we are famous. World famous for being right on top of the story in real time

or getting out the beer keg and taking a few days to think it through. So we have had

electrifying hearings. You heard a little bit of it. As we opened the show, I'm joined

with the great David Axelrod and the immensely talented Robert Z Gibbs here to chew over

the politics of this in a special short to the point analysis edition of hacks on tap

before we all go after the Fourth of July weekend. So we know what happened. We know

it was huge. The question is politically short term long term. What does it mean? We'll

change the needle or next week we're beyond to the cost of asparagus. Yeah. Well, first

of all, let us acknowledge that it takes guts to do what Cassidy did and she's getting

exactly what she probably expected, which is a whole bunch of arrows from every direction,

arrows from every direction. Some of which is around this issue of did Trump or did he

not lunge for the driver of his limo, which really isn't the central point. The central

point is did he want to go down to the capital and was he pissed and was he ordering them

to take him? No one's denying that. I personally found it hard to imagine that guy lunging

at anything other than a big Mac. That tank like thing he drives. It's not, you have

to be a gymnast to get, well, depends where he was, but you're right. The real point

is that's true in a smaller package. Now everybody's going to be dropping beast all the time.

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