Welcome to the Emotionally Healthy Leadership Podcast with Pete Scazzaro.

Pete is the founding and senior pastor of New Life Fellowship Church in Queens in New York City.

New Life is a church community with people from over 73 nations.

Pete is also the best-selling author of the Emotionally Healthy Church,

Emotionally Healthy Spirituality, and the Daily Office devotion.

Thanks for tuning into the Emotionally Healthy Leadership Podcast. My name is Rich Velotis. I'm the

associate lead pastor at New Life Fellowship in Queens. And I'm again here with Pete Scazzaro. Pete is the founder and senior pastor

of New Life Fellowship in Queens, New York City.

He's been the pastor for 26 years here

and has served New Life,

which is a church with folks from over 73 nations.

Pete is also the best-selling author

of the emotionally healthy church,

emotionally healthy spirituality,

The Daily Office Devotional Book. All of these resources and more can be found on a few emotionally healthy church, emotionally healthy spirituality, the daily office devotional book.

All of these resources and more can be found on a few websites, petscasero.com, and

emotionally healthy.org as well as newlife fellowship.org.

Now today, Pete, we're going to talk about an issue in leadership that, again, in my own

leadership, in my own readings, tends to get overlooked.

We're going to talk about the issue of projection and transference in leadership.

And so this is potentially a landmine for many pastors and leaders, if not addressed and not made

aware of.

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