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The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck Podcast

Productivity Expert Explains: How to Accomplish Far More While Working Less (ft. Cal Newport)

The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck Podcast

Mark Manson

Self-improvement, Education

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2024

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

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What if there was a way accomplish meaningful work—without the associated relationship breakdowns or stress? What if “making an impact” didn’t require massive amounts of energy or sacrifice? What if you could get more done by doing less?

In this episode, I talk to Cal Newport about how knowledge work has got it all wrong. We discuss the subtle dangers of remote/digital work and the key to avoiding burnout, all while still being able to grind on the things you love.

If you’re a stressed out, overworked remote worker, this one is for you.

Transcript

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0:00.0

In a recent survey of 12,000 people across 15 countries, a shocking 75% of office workers said that they had experienced burnout in the past year.

0:11.0

Burnout is defined as chronic workplace stress or constant feelings of energy

0:16.0

depletion and exhaustion. Not only has this become more common in the past decade, but post-pandemic,

0:22.0

it is reached, epidemic proportions yet this is

0:26.2

despite the fact that more people than ever have flexibility both between and

0:30.9

within jobs we are more able to choose our hours, work where we want,

0:35.2

and for who we want, on what we want than any other time in history. On paper,

0:40.5

things should be great for workers, yet they're suffering more than ever.

0:45.0

So, what the fuck is going on here? Are people just whiny and weak? Or is there something deeper and more psychological going on. Today's episode is all about

0:54.9

productivity burnout and why when given more freedom and flexibility in our jobs, our minds

1:00.0

appear to burn out faster. It's a complicated and nuanced subject and a must

1:05.0

hear for anyone who struggles with feeling stressed at work. Now joining me today is

1:09.6

Cal Newport. Cal Newport is a professor of computer science at Georgetown University, but Cal is best known for his New York Times best-selling books about the intersection of technology, productivity, and work culture.

1:22.0

His books have sold millions of copies and been

1:24.7

translated into 40 languages. His newest one is called slow productivity,

1:29.0

accomplishment without burnout. But perhaps most impressively, Cal has made it this far in life

1:35.4

without ever starting a social media account. Yes, you heard that correctly.

1:39.8

If that blows your mind, well, once you listen to the conversation, you'll understand how he does it.

1:46.0

By the way, if you're excited about this episode and enjoy the podcast,

1:50.0

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subscribe to the podcast on your app.

1:56.8

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