This is the productive money meme, is that Ethereum is a productive asset, which is kind of like the first time you've had a productive monetary good in history.

And this was kind of Warren Buffett's whole critique against gold because, like, people would ask him, he's like, gold is superior store value in all these dimensions.

Why don't you store your wealth in gold?

And Warren Buffett's response was it doesn't combat, right?

And it's unproductive.

Welcome to bankless, where today we explore the frontier of ether, productive money. This is how to

get started, how to get better, and how to front run the opportunity. This is Ryan Sean Adams. I'm here

with David Hoffman, and we're here to help you become more bankless.

Guys, a good old-fashioned, ETH is Money episode, bullish Eith episode. And it all comes from the content put out by one of our guests, Mike McGuinness.

So we have Mike McGinnis on the podcast, also Vivek from Ethelize, who's been a previous podcast guest.

Mike put out this banger essay. It's just been published this morning. It's called ETH as Productive Money.org.

Both David and I read this. We thought it was special because it was a fantastic compilation of all

of the things we've been saying about ETH over the years,

and Mike just puts it together in a simple narrative.

And he charts how ETH can go from its current price all the way to $250,000 per ETH,

if the market were to understand ETH or the asset as productive money.

As we're making our way through this bear market as an industry, there's one part of

crypto that's growing incredibly, and that is the institutional side, the Wall Street side,

the banks, the people doing the tokenization. And this is where I think really Vivek shines in this conversation

where we talk to Mike about his article and then we go to Vivek and ask Vivek about the

growth of education and understanding and awareness of Ethereum. I mean, that's what his job is

at Ethereumize. So that's what Ethereumize it's here to do. And so first we present the thesis, and then we check in with Veck about the progress of the understanding of the thesis, and that's the episode that you're going to hear right now. So let's go ahead and get into the episode, but first, a moment to talk about some of these fantastic sponsors that make the show possible. If you're already holding soul, here's something you may want to pay attention to.

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