So long as the internet is owned by private firms and run for profit, ordinary people can't

have the power participate in the decisions that affect them.

Thank you. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us. I'm your host, Paris Marks.

And before we get to this week's guest, I have an update for you on the fundraiser that we did back in April for the podcast's second birthday, you might remember that fundraiser was designed to

bring on a producer to take some of the weight off of my shoulders for making the show. And so I

just want to give you an update that, you know, I have chosen someone. We have a producer now for the

show. His name is Eric Wickham, fellow Canadian. Eric, welcome to the team. Paris, it feels so good to be a part of the team. Thanks for having me.

Absolutely. I'm very excited. You know, you have experience working with CBC Radio, with local

radio stations, with other podcasts. You host your own podcast as well. Big Shiny Takes where I have

been a guest, of course. And so, you know, it's good for me to know that after two years of having someone with very

little sound experience, that being me, you know, just learn the basics, that finally the podcast

is going to have someone who actually knows what they're doing to put the show together.

I think you're being really hard on yourself because your show is amazing. I mean,

I just actually finished listening to your last episode with Ed Zitrin where he like lays into

tech journalists in particular. And it's just like it's such a fun listen every single week. So I'm happy I get the opportunity to contribute to it.

But yeah, tech won't save us rules.

And everybody listening to this already knows that.

I appreciate that.

But now everyone's going to criticize me and say, I just brought you on so you could like kiss the ring and praise me in exchange for becoming a

producer. That's why I got this, this gig. You know, I'm just really, really nice.

But no, I'm really excited to have you as part of the Tech Won't Save Us team, that being, I guess,

me and you now. Not a big team. But yeah, I think it'll be great to

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