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Money Tree Investing

Private Market Investing vs. Public Markets: Where the Real Opportunities Lie

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Stockmarket, Valuestocks, Investing, Finance, Passiveincome, Wealth, Business, Personalfinance

4.6658 Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Mark Flickinger shares his journey from engineering and building small businesses to working in private market investing at BIP Capital, where he helps both entrepreneurs and high-net-worth investors achieve their goals. He explains that private markets have grown as many high-quality companies remain private longer, creating opportunities for alpha that are less available in public markets, especially as IPO thresholds have risen. Flickinger highlights trends in alternatives, noting that while AI attracts attention, compelling private businesses can now be accessed at lower entry costs.

We discuss...

  • Mark Flickinger combines his engineering background with investment expertise to support both business owners and high-net-worth investors.
  • Private markets have grown in importance as alternatives, moving beyond hedge funds to include a wide range of private companies.
  • Value creation that once happened in small-cap public stocks is now largely occurring in private companies.
  • Only one out of ten U.S.-based companies with $100 million or more in revenue is public, leaving most growth in private markets.
  • Entrepreneurs increasingly stay private due to regulatory burdens and the ability to grow without going public.
  • Business development companies (BDCs) were created to simplify private market investing for U.S.-based companies and investors.
  • Entrepreneurs are increasingly using a hybrid approach of equity and debt to raise capital without overly diluting ownership.
  • Taking on a partner or investor is worthwhile if they bring expertise and add significant value to the business.
  • Debt can be advantageous if the business grows faster than the interest cost, making leverage an effective tool.
  • Capital should be taken strategically to overcome growth hurdles, not just for the sake of raising funds.
  • Many business owners excel in specific phases of growth and benefit from focusing on their strengths rather than the CEO role.
  • The private credit market is likely to expand further, while banks continue to reduce direct lending to businesses.
  • A robust AI plan is now a key factor in evaluating a company’s long-term potential, beyond just naming conventions.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast. Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life. Hello, Smart Money Tree Podcast Solutions, welcome to this week's show. My name's Kirk Chisholm and I'll be host. So today I'm joined with Mark Flickinger. How you doing, Mark? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.

0:24.2

Great. Well, glad to having this show. And for those of you who don't know you, Mark,

0:26.0

tell the listeners a little bit about your background.

0:29.9

Sure. I started operating small businesses, kind of privately held businesses,

0:35.1

and then moved into the investing space. I work at a private market investing firm named BIP Capital.

0:38.1

We love bringing the opportunities to invest in private markets to kind of high net worth investors around the country. How did you get started in the field,

0:43.8

though? Like, what drew you to this field instead of other things you could have done? I was like

0:48.1

building things. And so I was mechanical engineer by undergrad training. And I was like building

0:53.2

things that hadn't been built before.

0:55.0

So started in pockets in larger companies, worked into a small privately back company that

1:00.4

ultimately sold and just really liked this ability to build. I moved to the investment space.

1:05.3

I've always been fascinated by just the ability to help these entrepreneurs, partner with them to

1:10.5

achieve their goals

1:11.5

and kind of seeing the opportunities in front of them. And I always fast myself as better at

1:15.2

helping people with their idea than coming up with my own idea. And so going over to the venture

1:20.7

capital space has been great. We've been able to work with a lot of entrepreneurs. And then also a

1:24.8

lot of individuals who are looking to grow their wealth. I think that's a great

1:29.2

partnership where I'm able to kind of do both skill sets, still building a lot of new, neat stuff

1:33.3

and helping both sides of the table. I've been in this space since 99, and I've noticed over the

1:38.2

years there's been a lot of evolutions of interest in the alternative markets, you know, started

1:43.6

with hedge funds in the late 90s. You weren't in the cool club unless you invest in a hedge fund. Right. That was the thing. Like, you had to be in a hedge fund or you weren't cool. And, you know, then that's evolved into other areas. What kind of trends are you seeing in the private markets? What is smart money chasing? Where are the best

2:02.1

opportunities right now? Like, what are you seeing? I think you're right. I mean,

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