Welcome to Rumble Strip Vermont, America Heilman. Today's show is called Private

Investigator. This is a program I made with Larry Massett and it aired in 2011 on NPR's

hearing voices. Fair warning, there are references to sex and violence in this show, and it may not be appropriate for children.

I work as a private investigator in Vermont with my friend Jesse. We used to work in a documentary production together in New York years ago.

Same skill set. Ask lots of questions. Figure out what happened, try to get a glimpse at why.

We moved up here together, Jesse and I.

We stayed, we had kids, both single mothers now. We work for lawyers, mostly defense lawyers, some public defenders, some private, drug cases,

domestic abuse, occasionally a murderer. So we drive, sometimes drive for hours just to leave a

card in someone's door. We drive a lot. I called my girlfriend and I said,

I'm going to be going to jail next week.

She said well you got to come see me.

Well I don't have a ride.

Well you can figure something out she said so what I did is I was working at a car used car dealership and I had the

keys to a car there so I walked over to work my boss is standing on the porch talking to a customer, walk up to this

blazer, hop in the car, start up the car, he's standing on the porch staring at me, he's like

this.

He lifts his hands like, what?

And I peel out and take off.

Wir, gone.

The car runs out of gas. So I pull over on the side of the road and I look on this

porch, it's got a porch light outside and I see a bicycle on the porch and I'm like,

I'm going to go steal this bicycle. So I run up run up grab this bike run back out to the road I get on this bike there aren't as many degrees of separation as I'd like to think between me and clients

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