Hi there, it's Anya Prifumo, a producer at Masters of Scale.

On Masters of Scale, we chat with some of the greatest entrepreneurs of our time

to answer the big questions surrounding scale and innovation.

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TED Radio Hour explores these challenging questions and the answers might surprise or even

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We can't see around all of the corners ahead but we have to make decisions that may not be

popular in the moment with everyone. We have to make decisions that stand the test of time.

For Business to succeed, we need a climate and that climate can't just be one that's conducive

to commerce. It has to be conducive to people. It's important to have things that we care about,

you know, fairness, decency, morality, civility. My view of it is that we citizens,

including business leaders, have an obligation to do something about it.

That's Ken Frazier, Chairman and former CEO of Farma Giant Merck and Chair of Health Assurances

at VC Firm General Catalyst, and Hayden Brown, CEO of the Pioneering Job Platform Upwork,

both live from the Masters of Scale Summit in San Francisco.

I'm Bob Sathion, former editor of Fast Company Founder of the Flux Group and Host of Masters

of Scale Rapid Response. I wanted to talk to Ken and Hayden because the pair share compelling

insights about the responsibility of business leaders today and how to prioritize principles

during moments of business pressure. From Russia boycotts to economic dislocation,

they talk about making sacrifices to stay true to your company's values. Plus, we hear from

two special guests, a board member from Peloton and an entrepreneur from Keyview Crane,

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