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Buried Bones - a historical true crime podcast with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes

Prime Time Crime PT 2

Buried Bones - a historical true crime podcast with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes

Exactly Right and iHeartPodcasts

True Crime

4.825.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

In this concluding part of a two-parter, Kate and Paul head back to an investigation in 1978 Arizona, where a suspect emerges in a murder case. A look back at the handling of evidence and crime scenes provides unexpected hurdles and challenges.   

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0:00.0

This is exactly right.

0:07.4

Everyone thinks they've never joined a cult.

0:09.7

But the truth is, it happens to smart, grounded everyday people like us.

0:14.3

I'm Lola Blanc.

0:15.3

And I'm Megan Elizabeth.

0:16.8

We host Trust Me, a podcast about cults, extreme belief, and manipulation.

0:20.7

And now, Trust Me, has a new home on the Exactly Right podcast network, alongside shows like my favorite murder and buried bones.

0:27.2

New episodes of Trust Me, premiered July 30th on Exactly Right. Listen wherever you get your podcasts.

0:37.0

Have you ever thought about going voiceover?

0:40.2

I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation.

0:45.7

I'm also the girl behind Boy Sober, the movement that exploded in 2024.

0:52.0

You might hear that term and think it's about celibacy, but to me, voiceover is

0:56.8

about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's flexible. It's customizable.

1:03.2

And it's a personal process. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now.

1:09.5

Let me hear it.

1:16.7

Listen to voiceover on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

1:22.5

I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal.

1:26.2

Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone.

1:28.6

Most of all, his wife Caroline.

1:34.1

He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me.

1:40.4

How far would he go to cover up what he'd done? The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific.

1:45.7

And quite frankly, I question how many other women are out there that may bring forward allegations in the future.

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