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Cat & Cloud Podcast

Price of Fame – Do famous coffees help the rest of the industry

Cat & Cloud Podcast

Cat & Cloud

Education

4.8727 Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

This week we talk about fame—how it shapes perception in both pop culture and coffee. From the awkwardness of Will Smith trying to rap again to Hacienda Esmeralda’s Geisha selling for record prices at Best of Panama, we dig into how notoriety creates visibility, drives value, and raises the ceiling for everyone. Fame isn’t always comfortable, but it opens doors. Whether it’s an actor or a coffee producer, once you’re known, you change the market around you. Instead of resenting that spotlight, the challenge is to use it as inspiration—to shine light on others and expand what gets celebrated. 🔖 Chapters – 00:00 Will Smith - Hot or not 02:53 Hard to be famous 09:03 Best of Panama Auction results 10:28 The rediscovery of Gesha according to chris 11:49 What are people angry about 13:58 The issue with coffees that sell at auction 20:13 Are auction coffees really a problem? 🔗 Links – Cat & Cloud: Instagram www.instagram.com/catcloudcoffee/ Webstore www.catandcloud.com/ Chris Baca’s Personal Blog: www.chrisbaca.com/ We are Cat & Cloud Coffee. Started by three friends trying to pursue their passions with the mission to inspire connection by creating memorable experiences, and we created this podcast to continue forming those connections inside and out of our cafes. The Cat & Cloud podcast was created as a space for us to share our experiences in the coffee industry and starting a business. Each week we sit down to talk about new challenges as business owners, how we utilize our mission and values to make decisions, and answer questions from our listening community. If you’re looking to expand your coffee knowledge, get some advice for your own small business, or just like the vibes, give us a listen! Enjoy!

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0:00.0

wait a minute will smith is rapping again oh you don't want to even it's very rough to watch

0:05.5

here's the harder question to answer was will smith ever actually a rapper no that's the problem is

0:10.5

he always sucked and then like but he had the fame and notoriety of being pretty fun actor to watch

0:17.0

he's got some joints you know like didn't something happened and then like the culture changed and they don't like him like they used to. But he's trying to show up like he still got it. And it's like, dude, you don't need to do that. You made so much money and had a good time. Just like Cruz. I feel like he was just a vibe champion where it's... Even when you listen to summertime and all the stuff he did before. Oh, the raps are horrible. And it, but it feels good, right? It's like that that feels good. He's not an incredibly compelling lyricist. But summertime, it feels good. Getting jiggy with it. Again, it feels good. Yeah, dude, welcome to Miami being Venitos. Yeah,itos yeah it's i mean he was a good actor though

0:55.8

what it is yeah i like the thing like proper like even in fresh prince days way way back then when he

1:01.4

had those like the serious moments like he would always impress me because i was like a kid and i was like

1:05.5

oh this is all just fun and funny and then he had like those real big moments and i'm like oh this is

1:09.0

or this is real I am legend

1:11.4

stuff like that really it's good I still remember that opening scene where it's him on the treadmill

1:16.4

and he's just looking all cut doing pull-ups and he kills himself with a dog but now man and it's not

1:22.7

like the music was ever really banging but now he's like is rough rough. There's a couple things. There's one thing I

1:27.9

saw a little while back and it was just unfortunate and it was him trying to hype up a full

1:32.6

crowd, like a surprise like me and my DJ are showing up and I'm going to hype up a whole

1:36.2

crowd. And there was like, was it DJ Jazzy Jeff? No, no, no, no, there was nobody

1:42.6

hyped. It was nobody hyped.

1:48.7

It was like at least a couple hundred people with nobody, nobody even dancing,

1:50.1

nobody even bobbing their head barely.

1:52.6

And it's just awkward feeling.

1:56.2

I could see him making some music because he wants to make music,

1:58.8

but trying to make it be a thing.

2:00.3

He was never that guy.

2:21.1

He should just make good fun time summer music, which is what he's really good at. Bro. Make some good summertime jams. Yeah. People can cruise in their car, roll down the windows, feel that ocean breeze and be happy. It doesn't need to be serious. No, dude. His shit was never that serious. I pull up like gang, gang, gang. I'm like, no, you don't even stop it, bro. It's like James Hoffman dropping an album,

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