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Spiegel & Holmes Show

Previewing the Ben Johnson-Brian Flores chess match

Spiegel & Holmes Show

Audacy

Sports

4.2652 Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Matt Spiegel and Laurence Holmes previewed the chess match that will take place between Bears head coach Ben Johnson and Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores on Sunday.

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0:00.0

Spiegel and Holmes show Flashback, Flashback, Flashback.

0:05.0

Dan Weider is...

0:06.0

I think for Ben, you know, there is such a appealing chess match whenever he goes up against Brian Flores,

0:12.3

and I think he's, you know, eager to take that test again.

0:15.7

He's going to blitz you.

0:16.6

He's the king of Cover Zero Blitz.

0:20.9

The mystery of chess boxing this weekend between Ben Johnson and Brian Flores.

0:28.4

Yeah, Brian Flores, who Caleb called King of the Zero Blitz, but he didn't do it at all the first time around.

0:32.9

Yeah, he's just the king of blitzing.

0:35.6

And, like, he's not just just like it's all out pressure all

0:40.0

the time it's i'm going to make you think you see things that are not there ben johnson

0:46.7

when the offensive coordinator for the detroit lions scored a crap ton of points against

0:52.8

the vikings and brian flores averaged over 40 points a game with the lions a scored a crap ton of points against the Vikings and Brian Flores,

0:54.4

averaged over 40 points a game with the Lions against Brian Flores.

0:59.5

I remember we talked about it the very first week of the season

1:02.7

as we got ready for that matchup.

1:04.8

And the Bears had their moments early against the Vikings

1:08.8

and then did not.

1:11.9

Fell apart late.

1:13.7

Offense didn't get anything doing,

1:15.1

but that was, you know,

1:16.0

a second-year quarterback in his very first game with the coach.

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