Analyzing the Ben Johnson vs. Brian Flores chess match (Hour 4)

Spiegel & Holmes Show

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4.2 • 652 Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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In the final hour, Matt Spiegel and Laurence Holmes discussed the state of the Bears as they sit at 6-3 heading into a game against the Vikings on Sunday in Minneapolis. After that, they previewed the chess match that will take place between Bears head coach Ben Johnson and Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores on Sunday.

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0:00.0	Spiegel and Holmes.
0:01.8	Okay, here we go, sports fans.
0:04.2	Afternoons on the score.
0:06.0	The Bears have a really interesting game on Sunday.
0:09.2	While it's Dennis Allen's purview, Ben's the man in charge, so are you going to attack JJ or not?
0:13.9	Nine comes out.
0:14.7	Do all the listeners understand that's JJ McCarthy talking about his own alter ego?
0:18.8	I call him nine.
0:19.6	Nine comes out, and I got to understand like, okay, he can't be at his peak performance throughout three and a half hours. So nine from the Grange Park, Illinois. That's just trying to be the best he can possibly be every day. Nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine. Alex, what's your nickname for yourself? for when I am terrible at my job for most of the day and then turn it on at the end.
0:40.4	Is that what you're talking about? There was Ken and then there was the Hawk. It was Ken and then there was the Hawk. Ken doesn't want anything to do. He's very introverted. He likes his time. He's down time. He likes to be alone. Where the Hawk wants to spotlight. He wants to get out there and fight. He wants to, you know, show his ass a little bit. Patrick Manley. What's up, Patrick? What's up, guys? I'd like to be addressed to 65 for the rest of this segment. 65! This happens to be the studio where a local saxophone legend named Duke Silver records his albums. I've heard of him. I heard he makes mature women swoon when he plays.
1:12.6	From what I've heard about Duke, he's kind of a private guy.
1:15.8	He doesn't want his nosy co-workers discussing his music with him or knowing that he exists.
1:20.7	You got it, Duke.
1:21.7	Don't call me that.
1:22.7	The alter ego.
1:23.7	So what did 65 do on Game Day?
1:26.1	And what did you have to do to enable 65 to live his best
1:29.9	life? I would always tape my left wrist first and then tape my right red. No, I don't know. No, I just,
1:38.7	I was just a long snapper. Guys, man, I just, I would just, that was just living. You just show up from
1:43.6	the golf course and be ready to. No, that would be, that would be practiced out of Bourbonnet, man, I just, I would just, that was just living. You just show up from the golf course and be ready to...
1:45.4	No, that would be, that would be practiced on Bourbonnet, man.
1:48.2	Game day was a little different.
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