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PREVIEW: What is the Soviet doctrine of "Esclae to De-escalate? #Ukraine: Colonel Jeff McCausland , USA (retired) @mccauslj @CBSNews @dickinsoncol

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🗓️ 29 September 2023

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PREVIEW: What is the Soviet doctrine of "Esclae to De-escalate? #Ukraine: Colonel Jeff McCausland , USA (retired) @mccauslj @CBSNews @dickinsonco
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Speaking with colleague Colonel Jeff McCawson in United States Army retired, about a book

0:05.3

he and his colleagues did some dozen years ago, Tactical Nuclear Weapons in NATO.

0:10.9

I learned from this book that Tactical Nuclear Weapons have always been part of the war-fighting

0:16.9

thinking since the nuclear weapon was first revealed in anger in 1945.

0:24.2

The smaller the nuke, the smaller the warhead, the more likely it is to be used and a battlefield

0:29.9

situation goes to thinking, are periods in which the thinking has changed.

0:35.2

1950, for example, to 1963 is a period of time of change, lots of change in thinking about

0:42.2

nuclear weapons, thinking about strategic weapons as well, citybusters.

0:47.7

What's pertinent today, not just the history of tactical weapons, but what do the Russians

0:52.9

make of their tactical nuclear weapon arsenal?

0:56.4

They have hundreds, if not thousands of them.

0:59.4

The U.S., on the other hand, is limited to several hundred gravity bomb nuclear weapons

1:04.1

deployed throughout Europe.

1:06.8

The Russian doctor and inherited from the Soviet Union, I learned from Jeff and his colleagues,

1:12.4

uses tactical nuclear weapons as a battlefield tactic.

1:18.8

It's meant to seal or break through or stop a breakthrough in some fashion.

1:23.9

It's understood as manageable.

1:25.7

There's also the theory of escalate to de-escalate, and Jeff explains it very bluntly here.

1:33.6

What all this adds up to is my observation that the Russians are more likely to use nuclear

1:40.7

weapons in order to prevent a larger war in their thinking than not.

1:48.2

Yeah, that fits right into the thinking of so-called escalate to de-escalate.

1:53.7

We'll escalate to these weapons, which will prevent an escalation on both sides, the central

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