This is John Batchel, a conversation about Venezuela with my colleague, Joseph Umar, executive director of Secure Free Society.

Why is Maduro, the dictator, releasing those detained, who protested his illegitimate continuation in office?

Joseph's explanation has to do with the migrants in this country from

Venezuela, the incoming Trump administration, Madura's ambition to change the story.

There's Joseph O'Mar to explain, and there are other complications. Venezuela is darkness visible,

and the Trump administration is about to turn its attention

to solving several problems,

some of which involve Venezuela

and the unlikelyhood it will cooperate.

Joseph O'Marr, on Venezuela, Trump,

the migrants, trendy Aragua, and the momentary inauguration of Maduro. At the same time, the return of the elected president, Gonzalez.

More of this tonight.

No, Maduro is focused right now on trying to essentially drive a narrative that would allow

his supporters, not just in Venezuela, but around Latin America, to amplify an argument

to ease off of pressure mechanisms against him by the United States.

So they're basically sucking up to the Trump administration, the new incoming Trump administration,

thinking that they could trick them into thinking that they're going to basically be able to ease

off the pressure. I don't think that's going to work, and I think that Maduro is going to essentially kind of waste his effort there.

Nonetheless, I do think that there is a conversation that's pending between Nicholas Maduro and President Trump,

and that conversation has to do with Venezuela taking back the migrants that are here in the United States illegally,

and more specifically the public safety threats

associated with the trend of Aragua. So that's a conversation that's definitely going to need to

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