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PREVIEW: UNILEVER: Charles Spicer, author of "Coffee with Hitler," explains the efforts by prominent merchants in Britain and Germany to work together to bring Hitler and his NSDAP in from the cold of condemnation. More later.

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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🗓️ 23 February 2025

⏱️ 3 minutes

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PREVIEW: UNILEVER: Charles Spicer, author of "Coffee with Hitler," explains the efforts by prominent merchants in Britain and Germany to work together to bring Hitler and his NSDAP in from the cold of condemnation. More later.
1936 Germany

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This is John Batchelor, conversation later today with Charles Spicer, the author of the

0:07.1

amazing and overwhelmingly new information. Coffee with Hitler, the untold story of the amateur spies

0:14.6

who tried to civilize the Nazis. This begins in Hitler's rise to power in 1933, and corporations in London were looking for a way to maintain their profit on the mainland in Germany,

0:29.0

at the same time deal with the horrors in the news in 33 to 34 to the night of the long knives.

0:37.8

Unilever was a frontier worker in Germany,

0:42.6

and what it needed was an organization that would look like rapprochement.

0:48.9

So formed the Anglo-German Fellowship.

0:52.7

There was a comparable organization in Berlin. Men and leaders of

0:59.8

companies and other hangers on going back and forth having dinners with each other and looking to build

1:06.5

a dialogue between London and Berlin. It came to disaster.

1:13.8

However, the effort also created conditions

1:17.0

for very good information to flow back and forth.

1:21.4

Coffee with Hitler, the untold story of the amateur spies

1:24.2

who tried to civilize the Nazis.

1:26.8

Unilever, one of the leaders in the London side of

1:30.5

this story, who knew it made so much money on Marjorin in 1933, 34? Here's Charles Spicer to explain

1:38.3

Unilever taking the lead on working with the Nazis. Civilizing the Nazis was the way it was put.

1:47.5

More of this later.

1:49.2

Yes, I think that the first people to get anxious about the relationship

1:53.8

between Britain and Germany are the worlds of business and finance.

1:58.3

So Unilever, which is companies, you know, still exists, major international

2:02.4

company, which have been created from a merger in the late 20s, between the Dutch Marjorine

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