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This is John Bachelor, conversation with John Hardy of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy is watching Ukraine War.

The cursed salient, you will recall, the Ukrainian forces, some first-rate material, moved into Russia, driving on the

city of Kursk, an historically significant city, with an atomic energy plant nearby.

That was intended, according to John and the reports that we have from the field, to draw off

Russian forces. The comment by the Ukrainian forces now is

that it failed. Here's John Hardy to explain and what little they gain from it.

The curse salient fail. More of this tonight.

All right, so, um, publicly, um, the, uh,

Serski, the commander chief of the Ukrainian Forces, he has basically said it achieved some success.

He acknowledged that it didn't achieve the goal of kind of taking the wind out of Russia's sales in D'Anetsko Blast. I think Ukraine

hoped that Russia would move a lot of units from, especially the areas around

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