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PREVIEW UKRAINE: Colleague Jeff McCausland outlines what the NATO pledge of 5% GDP for defense means for the future NATO. More.

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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🗓️ 2 July 2025

⏱️ 3 minutes

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PREVIEW UKRAINE: Colleague Jeff McCausland outlines what the NATO pledge of 5% GDP for defense means for the future NATO. More.

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This is John Batchel, a conversation with my colleague, Colonel Jeff McCausen, the United States Army retired, a NATO veteran about the meeting at the Hague.

1:15.4

Jeff credits Mark Rudy, the former Prime Minister of the Netherlands,

1:21.7

with very successfully managing all of the players in the NATO, 32 nations.

1:23.4

Spain wanted a waiver.

1:24.3

It got one.

1:30.5

Mr. Trump wanted to be satisfied with the rise in expectations of spending. He got it.

1:38.8

Well done, Mark Rudy. Here's Jeff McCausen to explain. A success for NATO is a success for the United States. More of this tonight. Well, it's unclear what they're going to buy. It's right,

1:43.2

John. It's three and a half percent will go directly to defense.

1:46.6

Of that, about 20 percent of that is supposed to be for hardware.

1:50.8

So we don't see the three and a half defense,

1:53.7

a percent on defense being spent on salaries and pensions and that kind of stuff.

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