This is John Batchel, a conversation with Peter Huse, a colleague who works on deterrent studies,

National Institute of Deterance Studies.

That means strategic weapons.

That means nuclear weapons.

That means the triad, missiles, submarines, bombers.

Same for the Russians, now formerly Soviet, same for the Chinese.

And what about strategic weapons? How do you use them? The example is how Russia used them

these three years now of the war in Ukraine. Rattle the nuclear saber. If you don't, if you don't, then I will. And Peter

reviews the possibility that China learned from how Kremlin managed its strategic weapons

these last years to intimidate NATO and the United States. Here's Peter Husey to explain deterrent studies.

More of this later. Absolutely. So the plot of the movie is absolutely plausible and totally

workable because there are two reasons for this. First of all, all the spy satellites most of the spy satellites let's put

it this way at that point were returning film back to earth. So they would essentially expose the

film through the photo equipment through the photographic equipment. Then they would reel it into the

special rolls and would load it into the capsules and then return that back to Earth.

Moreover, they would return the camera with the remaining film itself as well.

So the camera system would be kind of, it would be designed to be packed inside of the large capsule,

large almost like a crew carrying capsule,

and they would return back.

In fact, the same spacecraft which launched Gagarin,

the first Soviet cosmonaut into space,

was essentially a version of the spy satellite,

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