Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to the Tangle podcast.

I'm your host today, senior editor Will Kayback.

A quick reminder up front, we are off this week for our annual break that we take around the start of the spring,

but we'll be back with our normal content on Monday, March 30th.

Now on to today's interview. I'm going to say something that probably sounds pretty obvious.

Artificial intelligence is no longer a distant, futuristic idea. It's something that's here,

something that's accelerating, and something that's starting to reshape many, many facets of our

lives. From how we work to how we fight wars, to how we understand what it even means to be human,

AI is impacting all of it. And yet for something that is this powerful,

the rules of the road are still being written. In some cases, it doesn't even feel like they've

started to be written. So who's deciding what those rules should be and what happens if we get them

wrong? Today's guest has had a front row seat to some of the biggest challenges the country has

faced in the past.

Brad Carson is a former member of Congress and Iraq War veteran, a former senior Pentagon

official, and a university president.

Now he's at the center of one of the most important policy debates in America.

How and whether to put guardrails on artificial intelligence.

In my conversation with him, we dig into why AI is rapidly becoming a major political issue,

how both Republicans and Democrats are thinking about it,

and why the biggest threat to the industry might not be

China, but the growing distrust of the American public. We also go deeper into the stakes that

don't get talked about enough, like what happens if AI replaces not just some jobs, but most or

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