PREVIEW: SPECIAL EDITION - Jeffrey Epstein Part 2 - Isaac interviews journalist Tara Palmeri
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Isaac Saul
4.7 • 817 Ratings
🗓️ 23 March 2026
⏱️ 20 minutes
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Summary
Today's episode is a two part Special Edition mega episode on Tangles most requested topic, Jeffrey Epstein. If you have not listened to part 1 of this story yet please take a moment to do so before listening to part 2. To tackle this long, controversial and deeply complicated story, Isaac Saul decided to independently interview two journalists who have been looking at this story through two very different lenses. The two guests are Michael Tracy and Tara Palmeri. Michael Tracy is very skeptical and worried about how this story has percolated in pop culture whereas Tara Palmeri is trying to elevate the stories of the woman who have accused Jeffrey Epstein of assault as well as pushing back on the "manosphere" narrative from people like Michael Tracy who she things are trying to rewrite the Jeffrey Epstein story and downplay the crimes that he has been accused and convicted of. Interviewing both separately ensures both can get their reporting and opinions across without debate which allows our listeners to form their own opinions based off of the research and opinions they both have collected through all of their journalism on Jeffrey Epstein. Be sure to listen to both part 1 and part 2 of this mega Special Edition.
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| 0:00.0 | Part two of this mega abscene episode, which you're about to hear, is Tara Paul Mary. |
| 0:09.4 | I encourage you if you did not watch Part 1 with Michael Tracy to go watch Part 1 first, |
| 0:14.1 | and then come and listen to Tara Paul Mary in part 2. |
| 0:17.7 | The episodes are meant to be watched together. |
| 0:20.1 | I hope you guys enjoy. |
| 0:21.9 | Tara Paul, Mary, welcome to the show. Thank you for being here. |
| 0:24.7 | Of course. Thanks for having me, Isaac. It's great to be reunited after the newslet |
| 0:28.7 | conference. Yeah, exactly. We've had some chance to hang out a little backstage and some |
| 0:34.0 | media stuff before, but first time getting you on the show, so I'm really excited for it. All right. I want to start with some of your reporting and your perspective and |
| 0:43.0 | framework for approaching the Jeffrey Epstein story. This has obviously been something that's been |
| 0:48.0 | dominating the news. My audience has been super interested in this. You were one of the top, |
| 0:52.2 | most requested people that my audience wanted me to |
| 0:55.9 | bring on. So I really appreciate you sitting down. Thanks. I know. Yeah, you, Julie K. Brown, |
| 1:00.4 | Roe Conner, like some people have been, I think really all over this story, you were one of the names that |
| 1:05.5 | came up consistently. So I'm thrilled to be doing this. I think to start, it'd be helpful. Maybe if you could just give us |
| 1:12.7 | like the 30,000 foot lay of the land view on Jeffrey Epstein, who he was, what he was convicted of, |
| 1:22.4 | and what crimes you think he's been credibly accused of that you think there is, you know, |
| 1:26.8 | enough evidence to substantiate, you either want to see more of accused of that you think there is, you know, enough evidence |
| 1:27.5 | to substantiate. You either want to see more of it or you're sort of pulling out the threads of |
| 1:32.4 | particular angles of the story because you think there's something there. Just to give our audience |
| 1:37.0 | like a framework for how you think about him and what he did. Okay. So here are the facts. |
| 1:52.8 | Jeffrey Epstein was arrested, indicted in 2008 on charges of procuring a minor for prostitution, a singular minor, although we know that there were many of them. |
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