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*PREVIEW* Schrödinger's Pervert feat. Becca Wilks

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TRASHFUTURE

Comedy

4.6851 Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2024

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

For this week's TF bonus, we're speaking with Welsh journalist Becca Wilks about the Welsh government's usage of automatic facial recognition, the privacy nightmare it creates, and their frankly bonkers justifications for why they want to use it everywhere. Don't worry, it won't cause any.....actually we're just getting an update that it's already being used to stifle protests? The episode is available on Patreon here.  A note from Becca: "Myself and Devon are currently supporting Ahmed, a dad of four in Gaza, to raise money for the family’s living costs and eventual evacuation. We’re also trying to help Ahmed’s friend Rasha, who is a medical student in Egypt with her entire family trapped in Rafah. Both sets of families have been through absolutely harrowing ordeals, and every aspect of staying alive there at the moment is backbreaking work - fetching big containers of water over long distances in 35C heat, breaking up wood to try and get a fire going to cook, everything. Both families are raising money through GoFundMe." https://www.gofundme.com/f/a8jzz-help-me-and-my-family-get-out-of-the-gaza-strip https://www.gofundme.com/f/htdcj-evacuating-my-family-from-gaza *EDINBURGH LIVE SHOW ALERT* We're going to be live at Monkey Barrel comedy at the Edinburgh Fringe on August 14, and you can get tickets here:  https://www.wegottickets.com/event/621432   *MILO ALERT* Buy Milo’s special ‘Voicemail’ here! https://pensight.com/x/miloedwards/digital-item-5a616491-a89c-4ed2-a257-0adc30eedd6d   *STREAM ALERT* Check out our Twitch stream, which airs 9-11 pm UK time every Monday and Thursday, at the following link: https://www.twitch.tv/trashfuturepodcast *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and November (@postoctobrist)

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0:00.0

It's interesting you bring that up, actually, because that's the Tesco sort of fog defense system.

0:07.0

I was thinking about this a lot as I was doing the notes this morning because, yeah, to take you into the shoplifting bit, actually,

0:13.8

because I've split things up into a couple of little trunks to try and condense this down.

0:18.5

So one of the big use cases for AFR being pushed is shoplifting.

0:23.6

And it's because as we've gone through the cost of living crisis, there has been a reported

0:29.2

and alleged sort of uptick in shoplifting. Because automatic facial recognition, a lot of

0:35.2

the way that they've sold it to people is that it's to

0:38.1

prevent what they say, like risk of serious harm or serious crimes. Because shoplifting isn't

0:44.6

generally considered to be a serious crime, the way that they've gone after it is to kind of

0:49.9

stretch the term to fit the deployment they have in mind. And they're doing this through a thing

0:55.7

called Project Pegasus, which is where a bunch of sort of major retailers, things like Aldi Tesco,

1:02.6

Marks and Spencer, things like that, Premark. They have partfunded a police team of specialist

1:09.9

officers and analysts to build a comprehensive

1:12.7

intelligent picture of the organized crime gangs that fuel many shoplifting incidents across

1:18.4

the country. That's caught in from their website. This is like real like cartoonish evil shit

1:24.6

to be like, yeah, the police have stood up Project Pegasus, a shadowy network of corporate funding.

1:30.9

But the corporate funding is fucking Tesco.

1:33.3

Yeah.

1:34.0

A distinctly like British take on it.

1:36.6

Yeah.

1:36.9

Speaking of like cartoonish evil, what is buried in that the press release announcing Project Pegasus was that among, they're talking about,

1:47.4

you know, organized crime gangs, but in that definition what they include, and they say

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