Hello, welcome to a new episode of Realpolitik. I am your host, Fidazmada. I'm joined today by a very

special guest, Peter North, Northern Variant. You all know him on X. You all follow him.

One of the most astute commentators on British politics on the right. And always very, very

realistic to the extent that he upsets some people by being too realistic.

And that's why I thought it's very important to hear from him, understand his perspective, learn from him, and see what he has to say.

Pete, thank you so much for joining me. Thanks for having me. Good to be here. My pleasure. My pleasure. Tell me a little bit more

about you. You are, you don't exactly fit as an ethno-nationalist and you don't exactly fit as a

civic nationalist. Tell me a little bit about the evolution on your thinking, on the question

of nationality, because I know at some point you were closer to the civic

nationalist position. Yes. But you are also not a pure blood and soil ethno-nationalist. You're

somewhere in the middle. Help me understand this, please. I'm not 100% sure I do understand it

myself. This is part of the self-analysis that I've put

myself under for the last couple of years. The thinking I was doing was along the lines of what is

the actual difference between ethno-nationalism and civic nationalism

in policy terms. Now, take civic nationalism. This is predicated on some notion of civic identity

and these British values.

Well, who defines what those British values are?

And assuming we could have that debate and agree on something,

well, these British values are going to be contemporary,

they're going to be liberal. And so then if you take it upon yourself to define

these values as the basis of your society, then it requires two things from you on a policy basis.

You have to demand certain sacrifices of incomers that they buy into your civic identity

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