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This is John Batchel.

A conversation with colleague Professor John Yoo at Berkeley,

also a fellow at the Civitas Institute at the University of Texas as well as AEI,

commenting on the Chevron doctrine that has now been challenged and reversed by the Supreme Court, by the Roberts Court. There are more cases coming.

Question is, does the administrative state have the final word in interpreting laws from Congress?

John Yoo speaks to it now,

and we look forward to more clarity in the next court.

More of this tonight.

John, this is terrible.

You're stealing my next article idea.

Darn it!

What's happened?

Chevron's a total example of the Wilsonian, you know, bureaucratic presidency.

Congress rates a vague statute, like regulate the air in the public interest.

And then the executive branch agencies, because their experts would say,

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