This is John Bachelor, conversation with my colleague Chris Regal of scholar.com

who has business on all the major continents about China's troubles.

The non-transperancy of China's troubles include the fact that they're no longer telling us

in detail about the sinking prospects for 2024.

The Premier who usually briefs after the meeting in the Great Hall of China

chose Great Hall of the People, chose not to brief and won't brief again until 2027.

So I ask Chris, is there any bright spot, anywhere for China, given these numbers?

The real estate crisis, the failing buildings, the inability to pay personnel at all the municipalities,

the stock market plunging. There are many more negatives here, but what we have is a grim picture a deep recession is

Chris the I think the only good news for China might be if U.S. and Western interest rates subside a bit.

It may give more breathing room for the consumer and try to get the factory floors running again in China,

but that's a six month off position so at the

moment nothing but storm clouds. More of this later.