Hi this is Ryan from the Imperfect's podcast where we speak to well known people whose lives may seem perfect from the outside

but like all of us their lives are often imperfect. We've spoken to people like Elizabeth Day, Pat Cummins, and the King of England, Gary Barlow.

I just remember being there going, what am I doing? How did I get here?

And I was really good at hiding it it but I knew it had to stop it had to stop

search for the imperfects wherever you get your podcasts. This is John Bachelor conversation

with my colleague Chris Regal of Scala.com about the recent

embassy by the Secretary of the Treasury Janet Yellen to China to urge the Chinese not to use their excess manufacturing capacity, which is a euphemism

for dumping, not to use it again as they did once upon a time with solar panels and other products.

How would they do it this time?

Electric vehicles?

Yes.

Microchips, yes.

Everything you can imagine that's connected to high-end earning, and especially when it comes

to green tech.

Don't do it, said Janet Yellen.

I ask Chris Regal, what are the prospects of not doing it. Here's Chris Regal on Janet

Yellen's embassy and the Chinese response. More of this later.

John I think the Chinese will agree to anything.

That being said, will they follow that agreement?

No.

They will continue to dump, they will continue to do anything they can to bring in more hard capital to China.

That is their greatest opponent at the moment, the lack of capital and lack of capital investment

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