Yeah, I think that there's something, you know, this is being brought out by climate change.

Precarity is profitable for some people.

I mean, people have made a lot of money off of this pandemic.

People have made a lot of money off of some of our climate disasters that have happened recently.

And some people can afford safety in the middle of these crises, which, you know, makes some other people money.

You know, that precarity is because some people don't want to pay taxes to then invest in public systems that would protect us all.

And sort of what you're saying, it's like it's thinking about it from the perspective of do we have a right to a public health system?

Do we have a right to health care?

We should.

We just haven't really been budgeting for it.

We haven't been building it.

Yeah.

And just to add, you know, segregated care like still very much exists, you know, at least here in New York City.

We have, you know, public hospitals where both Andrew and I work that really are responsible for taking care of many,

you know, impoverished or low-income communities. And then we have these larger academic

hospitals where people with commercial insurance or private health insurance go. And, you know,

with the COVID pandemic, particularly at the peak, we saw, you know, the strain on public hospitals and smaller community

hospitals in terms of, in terms of just like having something as basic as like dialysis,

you know, available or accessible to patients. And we saw folks, I mean, there's New York Times

that a report about this, about, it's estimated, like, I think if folks went to like a public

hospital or community hospital,

they had three times higher likelihood of dying compared if they went to one of the larger

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