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*PREVIEW* Margaret Thatcher’s Lonely Hearts Club Band feat. Phil Burton-Cartledge

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Comedy

4.7935 Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2022

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Sociologist of Toryness Phil Burton Cartledge (@philbc3) rejoins the gang to discuss the leadership election, and what the current state of the Conservative party means for democracy in the U.K. (Spoiler alert: the omens are not necessarily good). Get the whole episode on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/69352783 If you’re looking for a UK strike fund to donate to, here’s one we’ve supported: https://www.rmt.org.uk/about/national-dispute-fund/ *MILO ALERT* Here are links to see Milo’s upcoming standup shows: https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/live-shows *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

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0:00.0

There's something I'd like to get to as well, right, which is splits.

0:04.0

I tend to think that, you know, the Tory party is known to be very united, sort of

0:11.5

comparatively, generally united enough to do what it needs to do, and then has enough authority

0:17.5

in it that it can manage what it needs to manage, and then it can externalize

0:21.3

its contradictions by lurching to the right, which it's perfectly comfortable with.

0:25.6

And so I think it's always the more interesting question is where some of the weaknesses are,

0:30.2

right? So this is something that, this is a quote from a hedge fund billionaire who gives

0:34.7

lots and lots of money to the Tories. He's given them more than

0:37.7

three million pounds in the past. And this is his assessment of the party generally. Now, he donated

0:44.5

to Bad Knock. So he's not someone who's totally disillusioned with the entire thing. He does think

0:48.2

that there is a direction here that's worth going in. But if you sort of leave that to one side for a second,

0:52.6

I think given that sort of the main constituency of the party is city, is sort of city finance capital.

1:00.1

Yeah, whose thing is that they want to make money and they don't care about toilets, right?

1:05.6

And because whose main thing is their city finance capital is the main constituency, that sort of thing that

1:13.3

the last sort of several years has been, it's not been a split between people of different

1:17.5

meaningful political tendencies because most of these things aren't really that democratic anyway,

1:22.3

but a split in capital and where the Tory party is going to support. This is what John Armitage

1:25.7

has said. He says,

1:31.1

In the Westminster bubble, most MPs and commentators don't realize what deep shit the conservatives are in. I think people in the country are fed up with a regime that tolerated a dishonorable

1:34.7

prime minister, that Brexit has actually happened and the debate has moved on to doing something

1:38.6

about it and making it good. And I think people are fed up with what you call boosterism, or you call it policy by press release where nothing actually happens.

1:46.5

And I think that third point is the one that I come to most closely.

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