This is John Batchelor, conversation with my colleague Joseph Sternberg, about Kirstarmer,

the Prime Minister of Great Britain, as an overwhelming majority in Congress with his Labor Party,

and yet profoundly troubled by attacks from his backbench, by outsiders, by the Tories, sometimes,

by Farage, by just sitting there and signing up people who leave labor. Why are they going to Nigel Farage, the author of a tiny party

given numbers? Joseph explains, and what is to be done? Starrmer is to be done.

More of this tonight.

Thank you.

Oh, I think that Starmor has enormous political problems right now that he clearly has no idea how to solve. So I think that the overarching fact of British politics at the moment is that a lot of voters who used to be part of the

Labor Party base, Kier Starrmer's party, are fleeing in droves to Nigel Farage's Reform Party.

This is because these voters are frustrated with immigration and the fact that no major

party has been able to get a grip on the illegal immigration crisis in particular.

They are annoyed about labor's leftward drift on a lot of culture issues, especially trans

issues and things like that.

And I think that Starmor just has no clue what to do about this.

I mean, the sensible thing would be to come out and say, okay, we have heard you.

We are going to get serious about immigration.

And in some ways, Starmor is trying to do that.

They've come out with some proposals that are unbalanced, okay, tougher citizenship tests, tighter limitations on who can come into the country,

tighter restrictions on welfare benefits for recent arrivals, that sort of thing. But the problem is

that this is very controversial with the far left of the Labor Party, so they're internally divided on that. And reform, you know, if you have decided that you are going to vote for reform, by definition, you have lost faith in the Labor Party to fix these issues.