This is John Batchel, speaking with my colleague Elizabeth Peake of the Hill and Fox News, about

regulation and the lighter regulation, the more the small businesses of America prosper.

That has not been the case for four years of the Biden administration, nor was it the case

earlier for the Obama administration.

Here Liz makes the point, lighter regulation will translate into a happier, happier business

environment. Here's Liz to explain. More of this later tonight. I think it is accurate.

You know, if you look at measures of confidence, measures of optimism,

certainly small businesses have not been in an upbeat frame of mind for some time, and a lot of

that's regulation, as you say. And I think actually the story of the Joe Biden regulatory excess has not been told sufficiently.

If you look at, I don't know, there are various ways of measuring significant new rules put in place, significant new regulations.

Joe Biden has exceeded all prior administrations, including Barack Obama, who, if you remember during the time,

those of us who, like a lighter hand in regulation, used to be yelling about the fact that

every time we were about to come out of the Great Recession and growth would begin to accelerate,

remember, it was the slowest recovery from a downturn in the

country's history. Then Obama would spool out even more regulations and squash that growth.

We called it green shoots at the time, and the green shoots kept getting doused with petrochemicals or

something.

In this period, Biden has been doing a lot of this stuff, but also, John, I think something also needs to be talked about is the fact that there's been such investment in essentially

not terribly productive enterprises.

And we've had trillions of dollars going into, for example, green energy ambitions

and opportunities, I guess, that really haven't paid out.

So, you know, I think we're about to get back to basics where people start investing not in Intel as an example.

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