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The John Batchelor Show

PREVIEW LANCASTER COUNTY: Colleague Jim McTague reports on hints of softening consumerism in small businesses and tourism. More.

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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🗓️ 1 July 2025

⏱️ 2 minutes

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PREVIEW LANCASTER COUNTY: Colleague Jim McTague reports on hints of softening consumerism in small businesses and tourism. More.
1941 LANCASTER COUNTY

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This is John Batchel, a conversation with my good colleague Jim McTagg, former Washington editor for Barron's

0:07.3

magazine, now a novelist in Lancaster County, watching for softening in consumer conduct. Consumers are a dominant

0:16.6

force in American GDP, 70% or more.

0:24.2

And the puzzle for some time is, will they stop spending?

0:28.7

Because if they do, the economy contracts a little, just a little.

0:36.1

However, there has been no sign of it until Jim reports from a mall near his home, Lancaster County, and reports very carefully about what this means

0:40.5

for the immediate future of the consumer, perhaps the economy of Lancaster County, perhaps the

0:46.4

economy of the Keystone State, perhaps nationally. He calls it pressure points, stress fractures, watching for little signs of a slowdown.

0:58.5

Jim McTay, more of this tonight.

1:00.5

So, for example, I go to Park City Mall, which is owned by Brookfield Properties.

1:06.6

I saw 13 empty storefronts.

1:10.4

Now, if you go to the Brookfield website, they're only

1:14.2

advertising one vacant property, 8,000 square feet for a restaurant. But again, I saw 13, including

1:21.6

the former Forever 21 store. That chain went out of business in June. So the fact that people left the mall,

1:31.4

even if they have new people lined up, tells me that business is not great. In other parts of the

1:37.9

county, I see the same situation. There's a little crossroads shopping area, six miles from my house. Suddenly there are three vacancies, three retail businesses, gave up. They gave up the ghost.

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